FVWM: Debian Unstable now has FVWM 2.6.5

Discussion:

Thomas Adam

2013-01-23 13:53:32 UTC

Hi,

Just a quick note to all the Debian users who've long since been waiting for
Debian to update their version of FVWM, this has finally happened.

I've been helping out the new maintainer and talking to the DD who's
sponsering the maintainer, and we've finally got FVWM 2.6.5 released to
Debian Unstable.

Someone may well backport this; I don't know.

Enjoy.

-- Thomas Adam

Michael Großer

2013-01-23 14:33:26 UTC

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Post by Thomas Adam
Hi,
Just a quick note to all the Debian users who've long since been waiting for
Debian to update their version of FVWM, this has finally happened.
I've been helping out the new maintainer and talking to the DD who's
sponsering the maintainer, and we've finally got FVWM 2.6.5 released to
Debian Unstable.
Someone may well backport this; I don't know.
Enjoy.
-- Thomas Adam

Yay! Good news!

But anyway, I downloaded FVWM 2.6.5 in July 2012 for my Squeeze
installations und plan to use this instead of the built-in FVWM
version.

- Michael -

E Frank Ball III

2013-01-23 18:29:48 UTC

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Thank you, thats great. Any chance it will make it into Wheezy?

--
Frank Ball ***@frankb.us

Jaimos F Skriletz

2013-01-23 18:50:06 UTC

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Post by E Frank Ball III

Thank you, thats great. Any chance it will make it into Wheezy?

Wheezy is frozen so most likely not.

jaimos

pebcak

2013-01-27 09:30:49 UTC

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will most likely build it in my cowbuilder setup for squeeze, lenny,
wheezy and see what happens... if all goes well, it might end up on
backports.debian.org.

cheers,
christine

Post by Jaimos F Skriletz

Post by Thomas Adam

Post by Thomas Adam
Hi,
Just a quick note to all the Debian users who've long since been

waiting for

Post by Thomas Adam
Debian to update their version of FVWM, this has finally happened.
I've been helping out the new maintainer and talking to the DD who's
sponsering the maintainer, and we've finally got FVWM 2.6.5

released to

Post by Thomas Adam
Debian Unstable.
Someone may well backport this; I don't know.

Thank you, thats great. Any chance it will make it into Wheezy?

Wheezy is frozen so most likely not.
jaimos

Michael Großer

2013-01-27 09:53:15 UTC

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You will run into the problem that MenuFvwmRoot
does not contain "D. Debian Menu" anymore like
it used to be in Debian Lenny with FVWM 2.5.26.

Squeeze with FVWM 2.5.30 generates such a Debian
menu, but only then when the 3876 lines of code
of "/etc/X11/fvwm/system.fvwm2rc" are included,
with a lot annoying stuff that I don't want to
have in my config.

If you want, you can solve this problem. If not,
I will open a new thread in summer 2013 to address
this problem and will work without Debian menu
until then.

- Michael -

Post by pebcak
will most likely build it in my cowbuilder setup for squeeze, lenny,
wheezy and see what happens... if all goes well, it might end up on
backports.debian.org.
cheers,
christine

Post by Jaimos F Skriletz

Post by Thomas Adam

Post by Thomas Adam
Hi,
Just a quick note to all the Debian users who've long since been

waiting for

released to

Post by Thomas Adam
Debian Unstable.
Someone may well backport this; I don't know.

Thank you, thats great. Any chance it will make it into Wheezy?

Wheezy is frozen so most likely not.
jaimos

Claude Rubinson

2013-01-27 15:13:15 UTC

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Post by Michael GroÃer
You will run into the problem that MenuFvwmRoot
does not contain "D. Debian Menu" anymore like
it used to be in Debian Lenny with FVWM 2.5.26.
Squeeze with FVWM 2.5.30 generates such a Debian
menu, but only then when the 3876 lines of code
of "/etc/X11/fvwm/system.fvwm2rc" are included,
with a lot annoying stuff that I don't want to
have in my config.

Just read /etc/X11/fvwm/menudefs.hook into your config.

Claude

M***@gmx.de

2013-01-27 19:49:14 UTC

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Datum: Sun, 27 Jan 2013 09:13:15 -0600
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Post by Michael GroÃer
You will run into the problem that MenuFvwmRoot
does not contain "D. Debian Menu" anymore like
it used to be in Debian Lenny with FVWM 2.5.26.
Squeeze with FVWM 2.5.30 generates such a Debian
menu, but only then when the 3876 lines of code
of "/etc/X11/fvwm/system.fvwm2rc" are included,
with a lot of annoying stuff that I don't want to
have in my config.

Just read /etc/X11/fvwm/menudefs.hook into your config.
Claude

I tried it. With no luck. It was one of my obvious ideas.
Maybe, I did something wrong, but in my case, it didn't work.
Perhaps, I should try to include "/etc/X11/fvwm/menudefs.hook"
in FVWM "2.6.5", if it contains such a file. I tested both
"2.5.30" and "2.6.5" yesterday, bulldozing my two Debian
partitions after each test with a fresh and chaste version
of Squeeze, but I did different tests with "2.5.30" and
"2.6.5". I made more tests with "2.5.30", because it was
more Debian affine than "fvwm-2.6.5.tar.bz2".

- Michael -

Jaimos Skriletz

2013-01-27 20:47:38 UTC

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Post by M***@gmx.de

Post by Claude Rubinson

Post by Michael GroÃer
You will run into the problem that MenuFvwmRoot
does not contain "D. Debian Menu" anymore like
it used to be in Debian Lenny with FVWM 2.5.26.

Just read /etc/X11/fvwm/menudefs.hook into your config.
Claude

the menu is created with a debian menu-methods and the output is the /etc/X11/fvwm/menudefs.hook by default on the debian package (I just checked this myself).

'Read /etc/X11/fvwm/menudefs.hook' will just read the debian menu but not add it to your root menu. So that file only contains the info generated by the debian 'menu' package.

you should less that file, but the menu name is /Debian and you can get the menu by doing 'popup /Debian' and there is the menu. You can add that to your root menu to get access to the menu from there.

Note you will have to 'Read /etc/X11/fvwm/menudefs.hook' each time you add/remove packages to change the menu you will need to reread that file to get the updated menu. But this method ensures that you only add the menu to your current config and not all fo the other stuff from the default debian config file.

jaimos

Michael Großer

2013-01-27 21:21:07 UTC

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Post by Jaimos Skriletz

Post by M***@gmx.de

Post by Claude Rubinson

Post by Michael GroÃer
You will run into the problem that MenuFvwmRoot
does not contain "D. Debian Menu" anymore like
it used to be in Debian Lenny with FVWM 2.5.26.

Just read /etc/X11/fvwm/menudefs.hook into your config.
Claude

the menu is created with a debian menu-methods and the output is the /etc/X11/fvwm/menudefs.hook by default on the debian package (I just checked this myself).
'Read /etc/X11/fvwm/menudefs.hook' will just read the debian menu but not add it to your root menu. So that file only contains the info generated by the debian 'menu' package.
you should less that file, but the menu name is /Debian and you can get the menu by doing 'popup /Debian' and there is the menu. You can add that to your root menu to get access to the menu from there.
Note you will have to 'Read /etc/X11/fvwm/menudefs.hook' each time you add/remove packages to change the menu you will need to reread that file to get the updated menu. But this method ensures that you only add the menu to your current config and not all fo the other stuff from the default debian config file.
jaimos

Hi!

I can give it a try during the next 6 months. 'popup /Debian' could be
an approach that I should indeed pursue. As usual, I will report
about my progress when it is time. What do you mean with
"you should less that file"? Using the "less" command to do
something with that file? And if so, what?

Post by Jaimos Skriletz
and not all fo the other stuff from
the default debian config file.

Yeah, I know. I only need the Debian menu.
The other stuff is of no interest. It just
interferes with my own config.

It could be a good idea to transform a future
version of "/etc/X11/fvwm/system.fvwm2rc" into
a 2, 3, 4, ... or 9 liner, which includes
other files to add features to the default
config. One 'read' command reads in menus,
one 'read' command reads in a pager, one some
window decorations, one a clock, and the
user could set a "#" character before each
'read' command whose feature he/she does not
like. This could be a very convenient modular
approach for picky users like me ;-)

- Michael -

Jaimos Skriletz

2013-01-27 21:36:42 UTC

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Post by Michael GroÃer

Post by Jaimos Skriletz
the menu is created with a debian menu-methods and the output is the /etc/X11/fvwm/menudefs.hook by default on the debian package (I just checked this myself).
'Read /etc/X11/fvwm/menudefs.hook' will just read the debian menu but not add it to your root menu. So that file only contains the info generated by the debian 'menu' package.
you should less that file, but the menu name is /Debian and you can get the menu by doing 'popup /Debian' and there is the menu. You can add that to your root menu to get access to the menu from there.
Note you will have to 'Read /etc/X11/fvwm/menudefs.hook' each time you add/remove packages to change the menu you will need to reread that file to get the updated menu. But this method ensures that you only add the menu to your current config and not all fo the other stuff from the default debian config file.

I can give it a try during the next 6 months. 'popup /Debian' could be
an approach that I should indeed pursue. As usual, I will report
about my progress when it is time. What do you mean with
"you should less that file"? Using the "less" command to do
something with that file? And if so, what?

I mean take a look at what is inside the file. You will see it is nothing more than Menu Definitions for fvwm and the main thing is it tells you the Menu Names so you can refence them in your own config.

As I said all you need to do to get the debian menu is

1) Read /etc/X11/fvwm/menudefs.hook

That will pull in all the menu defintions, then you need to configure your config to put the menu where you want it

once you decide where you want it (submenu, key binding, etc) you can then open the menu with

2) 'Popup /Debian' or 'Menu /Debian'

That is all you need to do to get access to the debian menu. You can use FvwmConsole to play with things, but just add it as a submenu to your root menu in your config file and you have the menu.

jaimos

Michael Großer

2013-01-27 21:46:14 UTC

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Post by Jaimos Skriletz

Post by Michael GroÃer

I mean take a look at what is inside the file. You will see it is nothing more than Menu Definitions for fvwm and the main thing is it tells you the Menu Names so you can refence them in your own config.
As I said all you need to do to get the debian menu is
1) Read /etc/X11/fvwm/menudefs.hook
That will pull in all the menu defintions, then you need to configure your config to put the menu where you want it
once you decide where you want it (submenu, key binding, etc) you can then open the menu with
2) 'Popup /Debian' or 'Menu /Debian'
That is all you need to do to get access to the debian menu. You can use FvwmConsole to play with things, but just add it as a submenu to your root menu in your config file and you have the menu.
jaimos

Sounds very easy now. Thank you.
Yet another topic solved for today
(at least in theory). :-)

*logoff*
(it's night in Berlin now)

- Michael -

Michael Großer

2013-02-01 16:48:00 UTC

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Post by Michael GroÃer

Post by Jaimos Skriletz

Post by Michael GroÃer

I mean take a look at what is inside the file. You will see it is nothing more than Menu Definitions for fvwm and the main thing is it tells you the Menu Names so you can refence them in your own config.
As I said all you need to do to get the debian menu is
1) Read /etc/X11/fvwm/menudefs.hook
That will pull in all the menu defintions, then you need to configure your config to put the menu where you want it
once you decide where you want it (submenu, key binding, etc) you can then open the menu with
2) 'Popup /Debian' or 'Menu /Debian'
That is all you need to do to get access to the debian menu. You can use FvwmConsole to play with things, but just add it as a submenu to your root menu in your config file and you have the menu.
jaimos

Sounds very easy now. Thank you.
Yet another topic solved for today
(at least in theory). :-)
Read /etc/X11/fvwm/menudefs.hook
AddToMenu MenuFvwmRoot
+ "&D. Debian Menu" Popup /Debian

Thanx
- Michael -

Thomas Adam

2013-01-23 19:00:20 UTC

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From: Thomas Adam <***@fvwm.org>
Date: 23 January 2013 18:59
Subject: Re: FVWM: Debian Unstable now has FVWM 2.6.5

Post by E Frank Ball III

Thank you, thats great. Any chance it will make it into Wheezy?

When it goes stable it will then hit testing, which means at some
point someone might backport it.

-- Thomas Adam

Vincent W. Chen

2013-01-24 03:17:26 UTC

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As the currently maintainer, I'd like to ask those who have the time
to test out the new package and file bugs at the Debian bug tracker if
possible. I tried to keep most of the files in the same places,
despite the fairly big changes made. I'd also like to hear from those
who upgrade from the old 2.5.30 package whether there's any (new)
problems introduced.

My thanks goes to John Paul Adrian Glaubitz for sponsoring the package
and Thomas Adam for answering the questions I've had.

Regards,

Vincent Chen

Michael Großer

2013-01-24 10:30:28 UTC

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Post by Vincent W. Chen

As the currently maintainer, I'd like to ask those who have the time
to test out the new package and file bugs at the Debian bug tracker if
possible. I tried to keep most of the files in the same places,
despite the fairly big changes made. I'd also like to hear from those
who upgrade from the old 2.5.30 package whether there's any (new)
problems introduced.
My thanks goes to John Paul Adrian Glaubitz for sponsoring the package
and Thomas Adam for answering the questions I've had.
Regards,
Vincent Chen

Thank you very much for bringing FVWM and Debian
together. Both worlds are great and just belong together.

- Michael -