FVWM: Why forum and wiki on non-official hosts?

[Oleksandr Gavenko]

I run nslookup:

bash# nslookup fvwmwiki.xteddy.org
Address: 89.16.175.155
bash# nslookup www.fvwmforums.org
Address: 204.11.244.84
bash# nslookup fvwm.org
Address: 129.7.128.168

and traceroute. It is obvious that these 3 hosts geographically separated.
Yea, wiki was hosted at personal home site...

Why do not maintain wiki and forum at wiki.fvwm.org, forum.fvwm.org?

I understand that these resources was arisen on personal interest.

Making these resources official take guaranty that their archives would be
alive any time.

Why spend time to improve wiki if it can dead any time?

Some one may suggest to use:

git clone git://fvwmwiki.xteddy.org/srv/git/fvwmwiki.git

frequently. Not an option))

I think that wiki is powerful thing. Look to en.gentoo-wiki.com
It is better then Debian manuals and references for end users.

But emacswiki.org distinct example. Many dust and outdated or wrong content.

Wiki allow fix and improve things that written at:

http://fvwm.org/documentation/faq/

How is it hard to make update to the FAQ?

[Thomas Adam]

Post by Oleksandr Gavenko
Why do not maintain wiki and forum at wiki.fvwm.org, forum.fvwm.org?

Because then it's the responsibility of fvwm.org to maintain them.
The wiki and forum see such little updates that as they stand now is
fine.

Post by Oleksandr Gavenko
How is it hard to make update to the FAQ?

Hard enough that the *quality* of the FAQ is preserved, which is a
VERY good thing, IMO. People wishing to contribute to that can do so
through patches. Which in turn implies review.

-- Thomas Adam

[Oleksandr Gavenko]

Post by Thomas Adam

Post by Oleksandr Gavenko
Why do not maintain wiki and forum at wiki.fvwm.org, forum.fvwm.org?

Because then it's the responsibility of fvwm.org to maintain them.
The wiki and forum see such little updates that as they stand now is
fine.

OK.

I want to contribute to Fvwm HOWTO this text (yesterday I wrote Fvwm related
section):

https://github.com/qnikst/kbdd/wiki/Usecases

I look for appropriate place over Internet and decide that:

http://fvwmwiki.xteddy.org/

is it. But as contributor I notice:

* No links to fvwmwiki from http://www.fvwm.org/ (for example main page point
to fvwmforums).

* Wiki home page say: "This is the home of the FvwmWiki". That's true. But
how was related Fvwm project and this wiki? For example if I visit
http://wiki.debian.org/ it is obvious that this wiki is "ONLY ONE RIGHT"
wiki for Debian... How about near like this notice? So anyone can fill that
this is right place for contribution...

In any case this is only suggestions))

Post by Thomas Adam

Post by Oleksandr Gavenko
How is it hard to make update to the FAQ?

Hard enough that the *quality* of the FAQ is preserved, which is a
VERY good thing, IMO. People wishing to contribute to that can do so
through patches. Which in turn implies review.

Seems that all web pages from http://www.fvwm.org under some VCS...

I found

http://www.fvwm.org/documentation/perllib/General::Parse.php

too old (Updated: 2005-08-24). 'getToken' name and other currently named as
'get_token', etc.

That why I ask about ability to update some page under fvwm.org...

Now I get sources from CVS and it is seems to update this page someone need
rerun doc generation (and deploy) script for Perl modules.

Is this script under CVS or it is custom and owned by developers?

[Dan Espen]

Post by Oleksandr Gavenko

Post by Thomas Adam

Post by Oleksandr Gavenko
Why do not maintain wiki and forum at wiki.fvwm.org, forum.fvwm.org?

Because then it's the responsibility of fvwm.org to maintain them.
The wiki and forum see such little updates that as they stand now is
fine.

OK.
I want to contribute to Fvwm HOWTO this text (yesterday I wrote Fvwm related
https://github.com/qnikst/kbdd/wiki/Usecases
http://fvwmwiki.xteddy.org/
* No links to fvwmwiki from http://www.fvwm.org/ (for example main page point
to fvwmforums).
* Wiki home page say: "This is the home of the FvwmWiki". That's true. But
how was related Fvwm project and this wiki? For example if I visit
http://wiki.debian.org/ it is obvious that this wiki is "ONLY ONE RIGHT"
wiki for Debian... How about near like this notice? So anyone can fill that
this is right place for contribution...
In any case this is only suggestions))

Post by Thomas Adam

Post by Oleksandr Gavenko
How is it hard to make update to the FAQ?

Hard enough that the *quality* of the FAQ is preserved, which is a
VERY good thing, IMO. People wishing to contribute to that can do so
through patches. Which in turn implies review.

Seems that all web pages from http://www.fvwm.org under some VCS...
I found
http://www.fvwm.org/documentation/perllib/General::Parse.php
too old (Updated: 2005-08-24). 'getToken' name and other currently named as
'get_token', etc.
That why I ask about ability to update some page under fvwm.org...
Now I get sources from CVS and it is seems to update this page someone need
rerun doc generation (and deploy) script for Perl modules.
Is this script under CVS or it is custom and owned by developers?

Check the developer section at fvwm.org.
Everything on the fvwm.org site is in CVS
including generation scripts.

The web stuff is in the fvwm-web CVS package.