FVWM: Unhide a hidden taskbar

Post by Leo Simon
Tried to post this on the forum but it wouldn't let me log on.

Right -- and you forget/entered incorrectly which piece of information?

Post by Leo Simon
I accidently Iconified my task bar and don't see any way to get it back.
Could you please advise if there is one?

There is no such thing as "my task bar" -- either you're using FvwmButtons
or FvwmTaskBar, in which case if you really mean iconified, then see:

Next (SomeName) Iconify Off

Amongst many other ways of doing the same thing.

More specific answers will come with more specific information from you, if
the above doesn't help you.

-- Thomas Adam

--
"Deep in my heart I wish I was wrong. But deep in my heart I know I am
not." -- Morrissey ("Girl Least Likely To" -- off of Viva Hate.)

Dan Espen

2012-01-04 21:01:43 UTC

Post by Leo Simon
Tried to post this on the forum but it wouldn't let me log on.

Right -- and you forget/entered incorrectly which piece of information?

Post by Leo Simon
I accidently Iconified my task bar and don't see any way to get it back.
Could you please advise if there is one?

There is no such thing as "my task bar" -- either you're using FvwmButtons
Next (SomeName) Iconify Off
Amongst many other ways of doing the same thing.
More specific answers will come with more specific information from you, if
the above doesn't help you.

Yep.

When I lose windows I use the built in Alt-Tab to find the window.
Pretty much the only time I use Alt-Tab.

--
Dan Espen

Michael Großer

2012-01-04 22:00:49 UTC

Post by Leo Simon
Tried to post this on the forum but it wouldn't let me log on.

Right -- and you forget/entered incorrectly which piece of information?

Post by Leo Simon
I accidently Iconified my task bar and don't see any way to get it back.
Could you please advise if there is one?

As Thomas correctly wrote: Your question lacks in details.
Which FVWM module do you use as a "task bar"?

I use FvwmIconMan as task bar.

I used your question as an opportunity to let another wish
from my wish list become real: I finally wrote me an emergency tool,
which can solve emergencies like this one in your question.

After adding this tool to your config, you can press
<MOD5> + <MOD4> + <F12> (or any other keyboard binding of your choice),
and a "second task bar" appears. I chose "FvwmWinList" to act as a
"second task bar" without any form of skip list.

Use the middle mouse button to iconify or deiconify any window
that you want to.

Please leave feedback whether this solved your problem.

Michael

Thomas Adam

2012-01-05 10:57:31 UTC

Post by Michael GroÃer
After adding this tool to your config, you can press
<MOD5> + <MOD4> + <F12> (or any other keyboard binding of your choice),
and a "second task bar" appears. I chose "FvwmWinList" to act as a
"second task bar" without any form of skip list.

Given you already use FvwmIconMan, why are you then using FvwmWinList? Why
not just use FvwmIconMan? FvwmWinList is going bye-bye very very soon, and
the alternative will be FvwmWindowList, WindowList, or FvwmIconMan. There
will be no migration path away from this module.

Your emergency thing, is easily reduced to:

WindowList (Iconic) ...

But do not use FvwmWinList.

-- Thomas Adam

Michael Großer

2012-01-05 11:17:28 UTC

Given you already use FvwmIconMan, why are you then using FvwmWinList? Why
not just use FvwmIconMan? FvwmWinList is going bye-bye very very soon, and
the alternative will be FvwmWindowList, WindowList, or FvwmIconMan. There
will be no migration path away from this module.
WindowList (Iconic) ...
But do not use FvwmWinList.
-- Thomas Adam

This choice dates from a time before the discontinuation of FvwmWinList
was discussed over this list. I have to migrate it to FvwmIconMan
(by using two different instances of this class). I just have to
migrate and test this approach. I will do it for sure anytime.
Yesterday I only had one hour to piece together this solution
(and used old code that already existed).

Leo Simon

2012-01-04 22:02:26 UTC

Post by Leo Simon
Tried to post this on the forum but it wouldn't let me log on.

Right -- and you forget/entered incorrectly which piece of information?

Never get a chance to find out, I'm always told that I've tried too many times, although I tried only once and made a typo. Then I'm confronted with a CAPTCHA that makes absolutely no sense whatsoever to me. Presumably a cultural reference.

Post by Leo Simon
I accidently Iconified my task bar and don't see any way to get it back.
Could you please advise if there is one?

Was indeed the FvwmTaskBar. Seemed to have solved the problem
- Click in the root area
- Select Modules
- click on TaskBar
It magically comes back!!!

Thanks to all for help

Post by Thomas Adam
-- Thomas Adam
--
"Deep in my heart I wish I was wrong. But deep in my heart I know I am
not." -- Morrissey ("Girl Least Likely To" -- off of Viva Hate.)

Thomas Adam

2012-01-05 10:54:30 UTC

Post by Leo Simon
Tried to post this on the forum but it wouldn't let me log on.

Right -- and you forget/entered incorrectly which piece of information?

Never get a chance to find out, I'm always told that I've tried too many
times, although I tried only once and made a typo. Then I'm confronted
with a CAPTCHA that makes absolutely no sense whatsoever to me.
Presumably a cultural reference.

Well, The Beatles are well-known. If that's too cultural, sorry, although
even my eight year old cousin has heard of them. The idea behind that isn't
to make it difficult, but rather reduce the amount of spam I have to deal
with. But with very little work on your part, you should be able to derive
the answer easily enough.

Post by Leo Simon
Was indeed the FvwmTaskBar. Seemed to have solved the problem
- Click in the root area
- Select Modules
- click on TaskBar
It magically comes back!!!

It might come back, but now you either have two FvwmTaskBar instances
running because the other one is iconified, or you never iconified the first
one to begin with.

-- Thomas Adam

Leo Simon

2012-01-05 11:54:29 UTC

Actually even I have heard of the beatles. (The only group for which I could claim this.) It was the drag-drop thing that was giving me trouble, presumably due to the unresponsiveness of my system. Eventually if I sit and wait long enough, the stupid names do *eventually* find their way into the right hand box. And if you get everything exactly right (which i did after a half-hour of trying) *then* you can log in.

I'm praying that next time I log in, the board will forgive and forget my earlier typos (related to the upper case requirement), stop counting past errors and wipe the slate clean.

Thanks for your patience.

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Post by Leo Simon
Tried to post this on the forum but it wouldn't let me log on.

Right -- and you forget/entered incorrectly which piece of information?

Never get a chance to find out, I'm always told that I've tried too many
times, although I tried only once and made a typo. Then I'm confronted
with a CAPTCHA that makes absolutely no sense whatsoever to me.
Presumably a cultural reference.

Post by Leo Simon
Was indeed the FvwmTaskBar. Seemed to have solved the problem
- Click in the root area
- Select Modules
- click on TaskBar
It magically comes back!!!

It might come back, but now you either have two FvwmTaskBar instances
running because the other one is iconified, or you never iconified the first
one to begin with.
-- Thomas Adam

Thomas Adam

2012-01-05 11:58:46 UTC

Post by Leo Simon
I'm praying that next time I log in, the board will forgive and forget my
earlier typos (related to the upper case requirement), stop counting past
errors and wipe the slate clean.

If not, let me know and I'll sort it out for you.

As an aside, is there any chanve your MUA (or editor, if like me you use vim
and mutt) could wrap its lines to 66 characters or so? At the moment I'm
having to wrap your responses correctly as they're coming through all on one
line which is bloody irritating.

-- Thomas Adam

Leo Simon

2012-01-05 13:46:27 UTC

If not, let me know and I'll sort it out for you.

Seems ok now, I just have to train myself to remember to upper-case the first letter of
my password

Post by Thomas Adam
As an aside, is there any chanve your MUA (or editor, if like me you use vim and mutt) could wrap its lines to 66 characters or so? At the moment I'm having to wrap your responses correctly as they're coming through all on one line which is bloody irritating.

Hmmm, I've trained vim on my pine editor to unwrap, because I
inhabit, unfortunately an increasingly non-unix world, and 66
line wraps look terrible in gmail, etc. I'll try to remember to
reset textwidth when communicating in my preferred world!

Perhaps irrelevant, since now I seem to be no longer locked out of
the forum!!!

Post by Thomas Adam
-- Thomas Adam

Frédéric Perrin

2012-01-05 14:12:07 UTC

Post by Leo Simon
Tried to post this on the forum but it wouldn't let me log on.

Right -- and you forget/entered incorrectly which piece of
information?

Never get a chance to find out, I'm always told that I've tried too many
times, although I tried only once and made a typo. Then I'm
confronted
with a CAPTCHA that makes absolutely no sense whatsoever to me.
Presumably a cultural reference.

Well, The Beatles are well-known.

Ironically, there is a typo in Ringo's name (two cap letters at the
beginning).

--
Fred -- http://tar-jx.bz

Thomas Adam

2012-01-05 14:16:13 UTC